Tuesday, October 4, 2016

The Mysterious Fred Carlisle

Family Group Sheet for Fred Carlisle
Fred CarlisleHusband: Birth: 28 Sep 1898 in Scott County, Virginia, USA Death: 23 Jun 1973 in Tarentum, Allegheny, Pennsylvania, USA Burial: 25 Jun 1973 in Highland Memorial Cemetary, Beloit, Ohio

Marriage: 26 May 1922 in Kittanning, Armstrong, Pennsylvania, USA

Loretta "Retty" Scott Mother,  Father: George William Coley

Wife: Margaret Mae Smith: Birth: 15 Dec 1904 in Putneyville, Armstrong, PA Death: 01 May 1985 in New Kensington, Pennsylvania Burial: 03 May 1985 in Highland Memorial Cemetary, Beloit, Ohio. Ida Mae Slaugenhaupt Mother: Jacob Sherman Smith Father:

Children:
Name: June Evelyn Carlisle Birth: 11 Nov 1923 in New Bethleham, Pennsylvania Death: 07 May 2009 in Alliance, Stark, Ohio, USA Burial: 11 May 2009 in Highland Memorial Park Sebring, Ohio Marriage: 07 Apr 1951 in Alliance, Stark, Ohio, USA. Samuel Holgar Youmans Spouse; Robert Kibler Spouse: 1.F

Name: Robert Fred Carlisle Birth: 19 Sep 1925 in New Kensington , Pennsylvania Death: 12 Aug 2012 in Cambridge, Guernsey County, Ohio, USA Burial: Highland Memorial Park Sebring, Ohio, USA Marriage: 31 Dec 1976. Elizabeth Pierce Spouse;  Virginia Mae Leasure Spouse; Ida Sterling Spouse, 2.M

 Name: Edward George Carlisle Sr. Birth: 03 Sep 1927 in New Kensington, Pennsylvania Death: 25 Nov 2005 in New Kensington, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania Burial: Lower Burrell, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, USA Marriage: 17 Dec 1964 in Winchester, Virginia, USA. Alma Marie Bargerstock Spouse; Gloria June Larlisky Spouse. 3. M

Fred Carlisle has been a mystery for a long time. Recently, we have found out more about him and his family but it seems the more we find, the more there is to find. This is a short post to introduce his family and update some of the information we know about him. Fred Carlisle always claimed to be born on September 28, 1900 in Stockton, California. Actually he was born on September 28, 1898 in either Scott County, Virginia or Bristol, TN. They are just across the Virginia-Tennessee border from each other. He was born William McKinley Coley and his parents were George William Coley and Retty Scott. Both parents appeared to have died while he was just an infant although exactly when they died is not known for sure. This branch at the time was relocating to California. His parents did not go but after their death, he was taken by the family to California and appears to have been raised by a half brother, John Ambrose Coley, and his wife Sarah Francis (Sadie) Sally Wade (later to become Wales after remarrying). John and Sarah divorced sometime after arriving in California and it appears Fred may have been in an orphanage for a while. The 1910 census shows him in an orphanage in California. Fred entered the Navy during WWI and we believe he was discharged in 1920 in Philadelphia. Sometime between the discharge from the Navy and his  marriage to Margaret Mae Smith, he changed his name from William McKinley Coley to Fred Carlisle. Why he changed his name in not known. Why he chose Fred Carlisle is not known. Those mysteries remain.

The purpose of this post is to introduce the Coley family to those who have no idea who they are or how they are related. In my first post, I mentioned the Coley Family History book written by Joan Annette (Coley) Faria. This post will introduce this family line and the rich history the is the Coley family. I hope to share stories from that book in the future as there are some fascinating stories to be shared and saved. This will at least share the information we know to date about Fred Carlisle, my Grandfather who I loved very much. Hopefully we will be able to peal the onion back further and discover more information about him and why he did what he did.

1 comment:

  1. My Grandmother Emma L Wood Faulkner was giving me a history of her parents siblings when she came to stay with our family. This had to be in the 60's, She told me that she had an Uncle Bill that bootlegged whiskey and died in prison. I don't know if this was her grandmother's boy from her first marriage, or if it was her grandfather's boy from his second marriage. Wish I had asked, but I was just starting out. This could have been our Fred, he maybe changed his name from William to Fred. I know my grandmother thought he had died.

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